朱莉婭:嘿,托德,我們來(lái)談?wù)勀愕木W(wǎng)站吧。網(wǎng)站上的一切都是你自己負(fù)責(zé)嗎,比如錄音、編輯這些事情?
Todd: I used to. Yeah, I think up till the first, for the first six years I did everything. I did, I would record the audio that's step one. And then I would edit the audio and then I would transcribe it and then after I would transcribe it, I would write the quiz and then I would find photos for the audio and then I would make the multimedia which was usually Flash, then I would organise it and upload it on to a web server. So, yeah, I used to do everything.
托德:以前是。前六年一切都是我自己來(lái)處理。第一步是錄制音頻。然后要對(duì)音頻進(jìn)行編輯,接下來(lái)把錄音內(nèi)容整理成文本,然后要寫問(wèn)題,找和音頻內(nèi)容搭配的圖片,制作多媒體課件,通常是制作成動(dòng)畫的形式,然后我會(huì)把這些統(tǒng)一上傳到網(wǎng)站服務(wù)器上。以前一切都是我自己來(lái)做。
Julia: Ah, you're multi-skilled.
朱莉婭:你真是多技能人才。
Todd: Yeah, well I learned from it. I learned how to do a little of everything so it was good. But now I actually outsource a lot.
托德:嗯,我也是一點(diǎn)一點(diǎn)在學(xué)習(xí)。我學(xué)會(huì)了如何做這些事,這挺好的。不過(guò)現(xiàn)在我把大部分工作外包了出去。
Julia: What does that mean? You have other people do those parts for you?
朱莉婭:那是什么意思?你讓其他人來(lái)做這些事?
Todd: Yeah. Like usually I have now around six to seven people around the world that help me out. So I just find people, like digital assistants online, and they specialize in one thing and then I hire them through different agencies and then they do the work for me. So it's great.
托德:對(duì)。我在世界各地找了六七個(gè)人來(lái)幫我。我在網(wǎng)上找數(shù)字助理,這些人在某件事上很擅長(zhǎng),我通過(guò)不同的機(jī)構(gòu)雇傭他們,他們?yōu)槲夜ぷ鳌_@非常不錯(cuò)。
Julia: And how do you choose who you are going to use for those tasks?
朱莉婭:那你如何選擇做這些工作的人?
Todd: Well usually what you do is you post a job on a site, you place a bid or you just post a job and then different contractors post a bid and you can look at their experience and then if you find somebody that's say an audio editor or a transcriptionist or a photo editor then you hire them and you could either pay them one set fee for like one job or you can pay them by the hour and I usually pay people by the hour. So like right now I have a transcriptionist who works from Spain, she's a retired secretary and she does all the transcriptions for me now so there's fewer mistakes. There's a student in America who's Chinese who finds my images and she crops them now. It's like a part time job. There's a guy in India who edits a lot of my audio now so he's a professional sound engineer.
托德:通常是在網(wǎng)站上發(fā)布職位,你可以在網(wǎng)上招標(biāo)或是發(fā)布職位,然后不同的承包商會(huì)投標(biāo),你可以比較他們的經(jīng)驗(yàn),然后確定一名音頻編輯、一名轉(zhuǎn)錄員或是一名圖片編輯,然后雇傭他們,你可以在工作結(jié)束后支付他們固定的費(fèi)用也可以按小時(shí)結(jié)算工資,通常我是按小時(shí)支付工資?,F(xiàn)在我雇了一名轉(zhuǎn)錄員,她在西班牙工作,她是一名退休的秘書,現(xiàn)在我所有的轉(zhuǎn)錄工作都交給她來(lái)做,她很少犯錯(cuò)。還有一名在美國(guó)的中國(guó)留學(xué)生,她幫我找圖片然后對(duì)圖片進(jìn)行編輯。她是做兼職。還有一名印度人幫我編輯音頻,他是職業(yè)音響師。
Julia: Wow.
朱莉婭:哇哦。
Todd: Yeah, and I send him the audio and he does that.
托德:我把音頻發(fā)給他,然后他進(jìn)行編輯工作。
Julia: So these people are all working like freelancers in their specific field?
朱莉婭:那這些人是專業(yè)領(lǐng)域的自由工作者嗎?
Todd: Yeah, usually what they do is they are professional and maybe they moonlight at night, they do a little extra work or in some cases they just have a part time job and they want to make a little extra money working online or it's their career actually and they work for many people so they'll cobble together many contracts with different people. Like for example the transcriptionist, I know that she does transcription work for five or six contractors or companies so she's always busy. And actually everybody who works for me has contracted work with other people, so yeah, so it's great.
托德:對(duì),他們都是專業(yè)人員,可能他們是在晚上做一些兼職,或是做一些額外的工作,有些人就是做兼職,他們想在網(wǎng)上工作多掙些錢,這就是他們的工作,他們通常會(huì)為很多人工作,他們從不同的人那里接工作。比如那名轉(zhuǎn)錄員,我知道她為五六個(gè)承包人或公司工作,所以她一直很忙。實(shí)際上,所有為我工作的人也為其他人工作,這很好。
Julia: And you have direct contact with these people or do you just deal with them via the agencies?
朱莉婭:那你是直接和這些人聯(lián)系還是通過(guò)一些機(jī)構(gòu)和他們聯(lián)系?
Todd: You can. Well it's an online agency. I use a company called oDesk and I also use another company called Freelancer and they can contact me through there. They usually don't like you to email directly but usually you have to give them your email and then sometimes they email me and we just, you know, contact back and forth. And it's great, we have, we use DropBox so DropBox is a service where we can all share the same folder so we can just share files online and they do whatever work I need done and that's it.
托德:嗯,我通過(guò)網(wǎng)上的一家機(jī)構(gòu)和他們聯(lián)系。那家公司叫oDesk,我也使用Freelancer公司的服務(wù),他們可以通過(guò)該公司聯(lián)系我。通常他們不喜歡你直接用電子郵件聯(lián)系他們,不過(guò)你必須要把你的電郵地址給他們,有時(shí)他們也會(huì)給我發(fā)郵件,就這樣互相聯(lián)系。我覺(jué)得這很好,我們都用DropBox,我們可以在DropBox上分享相同的文件夾,在網(wǎng)上分享文件,然后他們就可以完成我需要他們做的工作。
Julia: Wow, it sounds great.
朱莉婭:哇哦,聽(tīng)起來(lái)真不錯(cuò)。
Todd: Yeah.
托德:對(duì)。
Julia: Convenient.
朱莉婭:很方便。
Todd: Yeah, it's great.
托德:沒(méi)錯(cuò),很好。
Julia: Are you always happy with the quality of the work you get then?
朱莉婭:那你對(duì)工作質(zhì)量滿意嗎?
Todd: Usually most people are really good. I mean sometimes you get contractors that aren't the best but yeah it's good. And you know the thing is it doesn't cost that much money. You know you might have let's say somebody does ten hours of work one week and you know they make ten dollars an hour, I mean in some countries that's a lot of money, that's pretty good money so they get a pretty decent wage and you get really good value for your money and it's a real big help for me. I can do more with the website by outsourcing it.
托德:大多數(shù)人做的非常不錯(cuò)。雖然有時(shí)承包人可能不是做的最好的,但做得還不錯(cuò)。而且這樣不會(huì)花費(fèi)太多錢。比如,有些人一周做10個(gè)小時(shí)的工作,每小時(shí)10美元,這在有些國(guó)家是一大筆錢,這樣他們可以拿到體面的薪水,而他們對(duì)我的幫助非常大,對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)這很值得。通過(guò)把一些工作外包出去,我可以讓網(wǎng)站的內(nèi)容更豐富。