小李子：父親是我比較好的老師

I thought it was very interesting what yousaid earlier about Cambodia
我覺得你剛才所提到的柬埔寨很有意思

because I was there, one of my favoritecountries
因為我曾經去過那里 它是我最喜歡的國家之一

and it changed me as a person so
那趟旅行也改變了我的人生

How long were you there?
你在那里待了多久？

Um well, we were there for a couple ofweeks
恩 我們在那里待了大概兩三個星期吧

because we did a trip in Vietnam andThailand
因為我們去了越南和泰國旅行

I didn't went to Vietnam, aswhat I want todo next
我沒有去過越南 但我接下來想去那看看

You mean that's what you have to do next
你是說這是你接下來想要做的事嗎
--Yeah
--是的

Yeah, oh yes
噢 這很棒

I'm a temple guy though that's why Cambodiafor me was amazing
我是個喜歡寺廟的人 所以柬埔寨對我來說是個很棒的地方
--Yeah, and it's inspiring
--是的 而且你能在那里有所感悟

I know and the people are just the sweetest
我明白 那里的人都非常非常友好

can't imagine nicer people on earth
想象不到地球上還有比這更友好的人了

They lost so much and yet they're soappreciative of everything they have
他們失去了很多東西 但他們仍對自己所擁有的一切充滿感激

You know they don't have a lot
你知道的 他們擁有的東西并不多

Anyway congratulations on this movie
無論如何 祝賀你的這部電影所獲得的成績

I love it, it's a phenomenal experience towatch this
我很喜歡這部影片 觀看這部電影帶給我了現(xiàn)實般的體驗

but to actually be in it that must be asurreal experience as well
但要真正地參與其中 那一定也是一次超現(xiàn)實的體驗

It was the whole experience was surreal anddifficult
整個拍攝的經歷是超現(xiàn)實的 并且也十分困難

but I knew what I was signing up for
但我清楚地知道我所追求的是什么

you know I think that Alejandro and I bothunderstood that
我想亞利桑德羅和我都明白這一點

we were going to kind of together take thispoetic existential journey into nature
我們要一起讓這次詩意之旅成為現(xiàn)實

and ultimately our experience wouldinfluence the narrative of the picture
最終我們的經歷會影響到影片的敘事感

and I think it very much did
我認為這一點非常重要

we knew what the end result was going to be
我們知道最終結果會是什么

It's a very linear story, a man that haslost absolutely everything
這是一個非常連貫性的故事 主角是一個幾乎失去了一切的男人

All the chips are stacked against him andhe has to find a way to
所有的籌碼都對他不利 所以他必須想辦法

He has to explore the will to live
他必須找到讓他繼續(xù)生存下去的意志

and it's an inspiring story
這是一個鼓舞人心的故事

it's--you know more so than it beingspecifically about historical fact which it's based
你知道的 它是個故事 而不僅僅是個具體的歷史事實

and it's become this thing of campfirelegend of this great frontiersman that has survived all odds
這已經成為這位歷經千難萬險幸存下來的偉大拓荒者的篝火傳說

and I knew that Alejandro wanted to dosomething very poetic with that journey
我知道亞利桑德羅想在這段旅行中添加一些有詩意的事情

and he accomplished it
他也做到了

and you cannot just do a movie like thisand just walk off set
你沒有辦法在拍攝完這樣一部電影 然后離開布景后

and be like okay I'm fine you know
馬上就能說 好的我覺得自己還不錯

This is it, let's just go back to reality
你沒有辦法說 就是這樣 讓我們回到現(xiàn)實中去吧

What level did this movie change you likeemotionally?
這部電影在情感上來說 對你的影響有多大?

Well look, I mean it was like I said
我認為--我曾經說過

it was without a doubt the hardest filmI've ever had to do
這毫無疑問是我拍過的最難的電影

and it
而且這部電影它--

we were doing it for the reason of creatinga great piece of art
我們拍攝這部電影是為了創(chuàng)造一件偉大的藝術品

and that's what we needed to remindourselves of every time we set foot on that movie set
而這也是我們每次來到電影片場時需要提醒自己的

because
因為--

everything you could possibly imagine thathappened to Hugh Glass, we needed to recreate
你能想象的發(fā)生在休·格拉斯身上的一切 我們都要將它還原出來

and that involved a lot of real things that
這就涉及到了很多真實的事情

myself as an actor had to do
作為一名演員 我不得不這么做

and you just keep reminding yourself thatyou're creating art
你只是要不斷地提醒自己 你是在創(chuàng)造藝術

and art means something in the world, itreally does
藝術于這個世界而言是有意義的 真的是這樣

You know they say that the best teachers inlife are, there's three of them
你知道 人們常說人生中最好的老師有三個

It's hardship, well you know empty pockets
第一個是困難 你知道的也可以說是身無分文

heartbreak and failure
然后還有 心碎和失敗

but what or who is the best teacher in yourlife?
那么對你而言 你生命中的最好的老師是誰呢？

Who's my best teacher?
誰是我的最好的老師？

My father yeah
我的父親

I would definitely say my father
我會很肯定地說是我的父親

Can you review on the relationship that youhave with your dad?
你能談談你和你父親之間的關系嗎?

Oh he's
他是--

Look, I came from humble beginnings
我出身比較卑微

I went to public school, but I always hadloving parents
我上的是公立學校 但一直以來我都擁有著很棒的父母

Both of my parents were unbelievable
我的父母親都非常優(yōu)秀

So I was incredibly fortunate in thatregard
所以在這方面我非常幸運

but my father is one of the wisest men I'veever met
我的父親是我見過的最聰明的人之一

and he has steered the course of my life inso many different directions in a positive way
他以一種積極的方式把我的人生引向了許多不同的方向

whether it be my environmental activism
他不但啟發(fā)了我 讓我成為環(huán)保行動主義者

who I believe I am as a person and as anactor
還讓我堅信自己 相信自己的為人 也相信自己是個好演員

It's completely influenced by him
這一切都完全是受他的影響

Yeah, and you know the story is not onlyabout revenge, it's also about resilience
你知道影片的內涵不僅僅是復仇 它也是一個關于觸底反彈的故事

In what way or what has made you strongeras a person?
那么在你的生活中 是什么事情讓你變得更強大了呢?

A number of different things I think that--
我認為有很多不同的事情--

you know
你要知道--

what gives me strength all the time
一直以來能夠給予我力量的

is to be able to have formulated a group ofpeople around me that are my friends and my family
是陪伴著我的那群人 我的家人和我的朋友們

you know those two words are meshed in myopinion
你知道這兩個詞在我看來是相互交織的 朋友即是家人 反之亦然

but it's given me a grounding that asinsane as my life canbe sometimes is always refreshing
他們就是我的后盾 讓我瘋狂的生活中也能有振奮人心的事存在

and they're always so honest with me
他們一直以來對我十分坦誠

and I'm so thankful for that
對此我也非常感激