小李子：父親是我比較好的老師

I thought it was very interesting what yousaid earlier about Cambodia
我覺(jué)得你剛才所提到的柬埔寨很有意思

because I was there, one of my favoritecountries
因?yàn)槲以?jīng)去過(guò)那里 它是我最喜歡的國(guó)家之一

and it changed me as a person so
那趟旅行也改變了我的人生

How long were you there?
你在那里待了多久？

Um well, we were there for a couple ofweeks
恩 我們?cè)谀抢锎舜蟾艃扇齻€(gè)星期吧

because we did a trip in Vietnam andThailand
因?yàn)槲覀內(nèi)チ嗽侥虾吞﹪?guó)旅行

I didn't went to Vietnam, aswhat I want todo next
我沒(méi)有去過(guò)越南 但我接下來(lái)想去那看看

You mean that's what you have to do next
你是說(shuō)這是你接下來(lái)想要做的事嗎
--Yeah
--是的

Yeah, oh yes
噢 這很棒

I'm a temple guy though that's why Cambodiafor me was amazing
我是個(gè)喜歡寺廟的人 所以柬埔寨對(duì)我來(lái)說(shuō)是個(gè)很棒的地方
--Yeah, and it's inspiring
--是的 而且你能在那里有所感悟

I know and the people are just the sweetest
我明白 那里的人都非常非常友好

can't imagine nicer people on earth
想象不到地球上還有比這更友好的人了

They lost so much and yet they're soappreciative of everything they have
他們失去了很多東西 但他們?nèi)詫?duì)自己所擁有的一切充滿(mǎn)感激

You know they don't have a lot
你知道的 他們擁有的東西并不多

Anyway congratulations on this movie
無(wú)論如何 祝賀你的這部電影所獲得的成績(jī)

I love it, it's a phenomenal experience towatch this
我很喜歡這部影片 觀看這部電影帶給我了現(xiàn)實(shí)般的體驗(yàn)

but to actually be in it that must be asurreal experience as well
但要真正地參與其中 那一定也是一次超現(xiàn)實(shí)的體驗(yàn)

It was the whole experience was surreal anddifficult
整個(gè)拍攝的經(jīng)歷是超現(xiàn)實(shí)的 并且也十分困難

but I knew what I was signing up for
但我清楚地知道我所追求的是什么

you know I think that Alejandro and I bothunderstood that
我想亞利桑德羅和我都明白這一點(diǎn)

we were going to kind of together take thispoetic existential journey into nature
我們要一起讓這次詩(shī)意之旅成為現(xiàn)實(shí)

and ultimately our experience wouldinfluence the narrative of the picture
最終我們的經(jīng)歷會(huì)影響到影片的敘事感

and I think it very much did
我認(rèn)為這一點(diǎn)非常重要

we knew what the end result was going to be
我們知道最終結(jié)果會(huì)是什么

It's a very linear story, a man that haslost absolutely everything
這是一個(gè)非常連貫性的故事 主角是一個(gè)幾乎失去了一切的男人

All the chips are stacked against him andhe has to find a way to
所有的籌碼都對(duì)他不利 所以他必須想辦法

He has to explore the will to live
他必須找到讓他繼續(xù)生存下去的意志

and it's an inspiring story
這是一個(gè)鼓舞人心的故事

it's--you know more so than it beingspecifically about historical fact which it's based
你知道的 它是個(gè)故事 而不僅僅是個(gè)具體的歷史事實(shí)

and it's become this thing of campfirelegend of this great frontiersman that has survived all odds
這已經(jīng)成為這位歷經(jīng)千難萬(wàn)險(xiǎn)幸存下來(lái)的偉大拓荒者的篝火傳說(shuō)

and I knew that Alejandro wanted to dosomething very poetic with that journey
我知道亞利桑德羅想在這段旅行中添加一些有詩(shī)意的事情

and he accomplished it
他也做到了

and you cannot just do a movie like thisand just walk off set
你沒(méi)有辦法在拍攝完這樣一部電影 然后離開(kāi)布景后

and be like okay I'm fine you know
馬上就能說(shuō) 好的我覺(jué)得自己還不錯(cuò)

This is it, let's just go back to reality
你沒(méi)有辦法說(shuō) 就是這樣 讓我們回到現(xiàn)實(shí)中去吧

What level did this movie change you likeemotionally?
這部電影在情感上來(lái)說(shuō) 對(duì)你的影響有多大?

Well look, I mean it was like I said
我認(rèn)為--我曾經(jīng)說(shuō)過(guò)

it was without a doubt the hardest filmI've ever had to do
這毫無(wú)疑問(wèn)是我拍過(guò)的最難的電影

and it
而且這部電影它--

we were doing it for the reason of creatinga great piece of art
我們拍攝這部電影是為了創(chuàng)造一件偉大的藝術(shù)品

and that's what we needed to remindourselves of every time we set foot on that movie set
而這也是我們每次來(lái)到電影片場(chǎng)時(shí)需要提醒自己的

because
因?yàn)?-

everything you could possibly imagine thathappened to Hugh Glass, we needed to recreate
你能想象的發(fā)生在休·格拉斯身上的一切 我們都要將它還原出來(lái)

and that involved a lot of real things that
這就涉及到了很多真實(shí)的事情

myself as an actor had to do
作為一名演員 我不得不這么做

and you just keep reminding yourself thatyou're creating art
你只是要不斷地提醒自己 你是在創(chuàng)造藝術(shù)

and art means something in the world, itreally does
藝術(shù)于這個(gè)世界而言是有意義的 真的是這樣

You know they say that the best teachers inlife are, there's three of them
你知道 人們常說(shuō)人生中最好的老師有三個(gè)

It's hardship, well you know empty pockets
第一個(gè)是困難 你知道的也可以說(shuō)是身無(wú)分文

heartbreak and failure
然后還有 心碎和失敗

but what or who is the best teacher in yourlife?
那么對(duì)你而言 你生命中的最好的老師是誰(shuí)呢？

Who's my best teacher?
誰(shuí)是我的最好的老師？

My father yeah
我的父親

I would definitely say my father
我會(huì)很肯定地說(shuō)是我的父親

Can you review on the relationship that youhave with your dad?
你能談?wù)勀愫湍愀赣H之間的關(guān)系嗎?

Oh he's
他是--

Look, I came from humble beginnings
我出身比較卑微

I went to public school, but I always hadloving parents
我上的是公立學(xué)校 但一直以來(lái)我都擁有著很棒的父母

Both of my parents were unbelievable
我的父母親都非常優(yōu)秀

So I was incredibly fortunate in thatregard
所以在這方面我非常幸運(yùn)

but my father is one of the wisest men I'veever met
我的父親是我見(jiàn)過(guò)的最聰明的人之一

and he has steered the course of my life inso many different directions in a positive way
他以一種積極的方式把我的人生引向了許多不同的方向

whether it be my environmental activism
他不但啟發(fā)了我 讓我成為環(huán)保行動(dòng)主義者

who I believe I am as a person and as anactor
還讓我堅(jiān)信自己 相信自己的為人 也相信自己是個(gè)好演員

It's completely influenced by him
這一切都完全是受他的影響

Yeah, and you know the story is not onlyabout revenge, it's also about resilience
你知道影片的內(nèi)涵不僅僅是復(fù)仇 它也是一個(gè)關(guān)于觸底反彈的故事

In what way or what has made you strongeras a person?
那么在你的生活中 是什么事情讓你變得更強(qiáng)大了呢?

A number of different things I think that--
我認(rèn)為有很多不同的事情--

you know
你要知道--

what gives me strength all the time
一直以來(lái)能夠給予我力量的

is to be able to have formulated a group ofpeople around me that are my friends and my family
是陪伴著我的那群人 我的家人和我的朋友們

you know those two words are meshed in myopinion
你知道這兩個(gè)詞在我看來(lái)是相互交織的 朋友即是家人 反之亦然

but it's given me a grounding that asinsane as my life canbe sometimes is always refreshing
他們就是我的后盾 讓我瘋狂的生活中也能有振奮人心的事存在

and they're always so honest with me
他們一直以來(lái)對(duì)我十分坦誠(chéng)

and I'm so thankful for that
對(duì)此我也非常感激