專訪“華生”馬丁·弗里曼：全程爆粗，這還是我們認(rèn)識(shí)的醫(yī)生嗎？

09 專訪“華生”馬丁·弗里曼：全程爆粗，這還是我們認(rèn)識(shí)的醫(yī)生嗎？

《神探夏洛克》第四季終于回歸熒屏?；蛟S觀眾對飾演福爾摩斯的“卷福”本尼迪克特·康伯巴奇已經(jīng)非常熟悉了，不過你知道劇里低調(diào)溫和的華生醫(yī)生，在生活中竟然這么炫酷狂拽嗎？FT專訪，帶你認(rèn)識(shí)戲外的“潮爺”馬丁·弗里曼。

“潮爺”馬丁·弗里曼（Martin Freeman）是英國著名男演員。

或許對于中國觀眾來說，這個(gè)名字并沒有那些好萊塢影星那么響亮。但是如果介紹，他就是《霍比特人》里的比爾博·巴金斯，或者《神探夏洛克》里的華生醫(yī)生，你肯定會(huì)反映說：啊，是他！

在《神探夏洛克》第四季2017年1月1日正式回歸電視熒屏之際，F(xiàn)T政治記者（有意思吧）Henry Mance采訪了馬丁·弗里曼。你肯定不會(huì)想到，這位熒屏上讓人覺得溫和、熟悉又親切的“潮爺”，生活里其實(shí)是一位低調(diào)卻個(gè)性鮮明的人。

超級低調(diào)的私人生活

“潮爺”弗里曼并不是經(jīng)常處于輿論中心的人物。這很大程度上是因?yàn)?，他一直注重將私人生活隔離在媒體視野之外。

The 45-year-old is so mindful of his privacy that he has previously refused to say when he was born or if he is married.He arrives at our meeting with Beats headphones, and when I ask what he was listening to, he helpfully replies: “Various things.”

45歲的馬丁·弗里曼非常注重個(gè)人隱私，甚至于他之前都拒絕透露出生年月和婚姻情況。他掛著Beats耳機(jī)來到我們的會(huì)面現(xiàn)場，當(dāng)我問聽到什么時(shí)，他禮貌地回答：“各種東西?！?/p>

“I like to keep something in reserve, I just do.Which I think is totally normal and totally sane.The way I see it — if my work life is for you, why the f*** would I make my private life for you? It's insane that anyone would give up both sides of their life for public consumption.Some people want to do it.Completely their f***ing funeral.But I — I absolutely reserve the right not to,” he explains.“I think it's nice not knowing stuff.And sometimes I do like lying to people.Occasionally, just fibbing.”

“我喜歡對公眾有所保留，就是這樣。我覺得這樣的做法很正常，很理智。我是這么看的：如果我的演員工作就是把自己展現(xiàn)在你眼前，那為什么我f***ing還要把私生活展示給你呢？把這兩面都暴露供公眾消費(fèi)的行為很愚蠢。真的有人想這么做。這就是他們的f***ing葬禮。我要保留拒絕如此的權(quán)利。不聞不問也挺好的。有時(shí)候我確實(shí)喜歡不說真話，不過那都是些無傷大雅的小謊?！?/p>

被采訪里那些F-words驚到了嗎？別誤會(huì)，其實(shí)馬丁·弗里曼并不是什么難搞的、沒禮貌的藝人。記者們在采訪名人時(shí)往往會(huì)過度包裝、渲染他們，炮制出一個(gè)個(gè)完全看不到人格特質(zhì)的假象。對于弗里曼，我決定保留他的這些特性。

后來我們又聊到了他戲里戲外的伴侶阿曼達(dá)（Amanda Abbington，英國女演員，《神探夏洛克》中飾演華生的妻子），弗里曼首次透露他們已經(jīng)和平分手。

“I'm not with Amanda any more,” he whispers about the partner/possible wife/possible ex-wife who he met in 2001, and with whom he has two children.“It's very, very amicable — I'll always love Amanda.”

“我和阿曼達(dá)分開了”，他聊到了伴侶（又可能是他的妻子/前妻）。他們相識(shí)于2001年，育有兩子女。“分手非常、非常和平，我永遠(yuǎn)愛她”。

在本篇報(bào)道刊登后，阿曼達(dá)在Twitter上寫道：謝謝

“戲路單一”？面對質(zhì)疑，實(shí)力回?fù)?/p>

曾經(jīng)有一種聲音一直伴隨著馬丁·弗里曼的職業(yè)生涯：他是不是那種everyman actor（戲路單一的演員）？而弗里曼的成長似乎正回答了這個(gè)問題。

There wasn't a huge leap from his breakout role in The Office — Tim Canterbury, the playful, likeable one — to his cameo in Love Actually — John.

從初露鋒芒之作——在《辦公室風(fēng)云》（BBC喜?。┲邪缪萦哪?、討喜的蒂姆·坎特伯雷，到在《真愛至上》中出演配角約翰，馬丁·弗里曼并沒有大的突破。

In 2005, when those were his only real hits, his response in an interview to the everyman question was a shrug: “Yes, OK, there's worse things to be.”

2005年，當(dāng)只塑造了上述幾個(gè)算得上入流的角色時(shí)，面對“戲路單一”的問題弗里曼只是聳聳肩：“是的，好吧，不算太糟?！?/p>

But after becoming Bilbo Baggins and Doctor John Watson, he started to resist the label.“To be honest, I don't really know what that means,” he protested to The Sunday Times in 2013.

不過在成為了比爾博·巴金斯和華生醫(yī)生后，他開始拒絕這個(gè)標(biāo)簽。2013年，在接受《星期日泰晤士報(bào)》的采訪時(shí)，他抗拒地說：“真的，我不懂你們說的究竟什么意思。”

These days his CV includes the complete $745m Hobbit trilogy and the award-winning TV drama Fargo, alongside Billy Bob Thornton.He has done three series of BBC mega-drama Sherlock, and returns for a fourth on New Year's Day.So he is even less tolerant of the idea that his parts might be, well, a little similar.

如今，在他的履歷表中已經(jīng)包含了票房7.45億美元的《霍比特人》三部曲，與比利·鮑勃·松頓合作、獲獎(jiǎng)電視劇《冰血暴》。他還出演了三季BBC巨制《神探夏洛克》，第四季在2017元旦播出。所以對他出演的角色多少有些類似的說法，他一點(diǎn)都不能忍。

“If you genuinely think that John Watson is the same as Tim Canterbury, that tells me everything I need to know about your critical facility,” he begins, withdrawing from the latte in front of him.“People draw dots.I've been a fairly reasonable person so they think, ‘Oh, he's just like a guy I know.And so I could probably do it.And so everything he's doing is the same.' Mate, if you think you could do it, f***ing fill your boots.Please be my guest.

“如果你真的覺得華生醫(yī)生和蒂姆·坎特伯雷是一樣的話，那我算是知道你的評價(jià)標(biāo)準(zhǔn)了”，弗里曼放下面前的拿鐵，“他們就會(huì)指指點(diǎn)點(diǎn)。就因?yàn)槲沂莻€(gè)相當(dāng)通情達(dá)理的人，人們就覺得，‘哦，他就像是我們身邊的普通人，我說不定也能演，他演的角色都是一樣的'。哥們，f***ing你行你上啊，自便?！?/p>

“If I make it look easy — without being a c*** about it, that's because I'm good.If it was all that easy, every f***er would be doing it.And trust me they're not.They're really not.You see an awful lot of acting going on.And if you think I'm not acting, well, fine.I've done my job then.”

“如果我讓這些角色看起來很容易演，不是我吹，那是因?yàn)槲已莸煤?。如果真那么簡單的話，那f***ing抓來個(gè)人就能演。相信我他們干不了的，他們絕對演不了。你看到的滿滿的都是演技好嗎？如果你覺得我什么都沒有演，好吧。反正我把我的工作做完了?！?/p>

馬丁·弗里曼和本尼迪克特·康伯巴奇

馬丁·弗里曼還會(huì)跟隨出演《神探夏洛克》多久？他似乎覺得意猶未盡之時(shí)才是最好的終點(diǎn)：

“All I can say...is that I love things being finite...I'm always happy to stop before people have wanted you to stop, or The Beatles would still be going.I'm very, very glad that they went, ‘no, that's enough'.”

“只能說，我喜歡事物可以善終。我比較樂意在人們希望一件事情停止前，停止它。不然披頭士現(xiàn)在可能還在唱呢。我很開心他們是那樣想的，‘不唱了，已經(jīng)足夠了'。

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Of Freeman's major roles, none is overtly political.Yet the man himself most definitely is.

縱覽弗里曼出演的主要角色，沒有一個(gè)是明顯沾有政治色彩的。不過弗里曼本人卻是有的。

Labour is driving many people nuts, but not quite Freeman.To my slight dismay, he seems keen for a discussion about the divisions between the party's members and its MPs, before satisfying himself with: “I want Labour in power, so I hope now that this is going to work.To be absolutely honest, I think it's a minor miracle whenever a Labour party gets into power, whoever it is.”

很多人為工黨抓狂，但弗里曼卻沒有。這讓我略感失望，他看起來熱衷于討論工黨黨員和該黨國會(huì)議員之間的分歧，他滿意的觀點(diǎn)是：“我希望工黨主政，但愿他們現(xiàn)在就采取行動(dòng)?？商拐\地說，我覺得工黨能夠主政的概率微乎其微，無論由誰帶領(lǐng)。”

With Corbyn, “I do understand that the danger is it's T-shirt politics.But genuinely I've wanted things to be f***ing renationalised for ever.He talks about it, like I think a Labour leader should… But I don't think he is the messiah.”

在說起科爾賓（現(xiàn)任工黨領(lǐng)袖）時(shí)，他說：“我認(rèn)為現(xiàn)在的危機(jī)是現(xiàn)在的政策不過是印在T恤上的口號(hào)。我由衷地希望東西都f***ing永遠(yuǎn)重歸國有?？茽栙e提到了這一點(diǎn)，我認(rèn)為工黨領(lǐng)袖應(yīng)該這么做。不過我不認(rèn)為他是救世主?！?/p>

就像展現(xiàn)在我們眼前的，馬丁·弗里曼性子耿直，脾氣火爆。他還因此拒絕開通個(gè)人的社交媒體賬號(hào)。

“My capacity for immediate anger is surprising sometimes,” he concedes.“Even surprises me.F***ing hell, like, ‘Where did that come from?'” I push him for an example.“People don't say ‘please' and ‘thank you'.Drives me f***ing nuts.”

他承認(rèn)“我對憤怒的抑制能力（之低）讓我自己都覺得驚訝，比如我都會(huì)問自己‘F**k, 哪來的火氣??？”我逼他舉個(gè)例子，他說：“如果別人不說‘請'或者‘謝謝'，我就f***ing抓狂?！?/p>

He has no social media accounts, because, “My career would be over within five minutes.If I was on Twitter, I would be f***ed, f***ed.Five minutes.” Success “has not changed what's in there,” he says, gesturing at his chest inside his red leather coat.

他還沒有社交媒體賬號(hào)，因?yàn)椤澳菢游业穆殬I(yè)生涯可能五分鐘內(nèi)就完蛋。如果我在推特上，我可能會(huì)一直爆粗。五分鐘就完蛋?！背晒Α皼]有改變這里”，他說著指了指紅色皮外套里的胸脯。

詞匯總結(jié)

amicable ['?m?k?b(?)l]

adj.友好的；友善的

It's very, very amicable — I'll always love Amanda.

分手非常、非常和平，我永遠(yuǎn)愛她。

cameo ['k?m???]

n.（影視劇中的）配角；刻有浮雕的寶石或貝殼；小品文

There wasn't a huge leap from his breakout role in The Office — Tim Canterbury, the playful, likeable one — to his cameo in Love Actually — John.

從初露鋒芒之作——在《辦公室風(fēng)云》（BBC喜?。┲邪缪萦哪?、討喜的蒂姆·坎特伯雷，到在《真愛至上》中出演配角約翰，馬丁·弗里曼并沒有大的突破。

fib [f?b]

n.無傷大雅的謊言，小謊；一擊

v.撒小謊

And sometimes I do like lying to people.Occasionally, just fibbing.

有時(shí)候我確實(shí)喜歡不說真話，不過那都是些無傷大雅的小謊。

trilogy ['tr?l?d??]

n.三部曲；三部劇

These days his CV includes the complete $745m Hobbit trilogy and the award-winning TV drama Fargo, alongside Billy Bob Thornton.

如今，在他的履歷表中已經(jīng)包含了票房7.45億美元的《霍比特人》三部曲，與比利·鮑勃·松頓合作、獲獎(jiǎng)電視劇《冰血暴》。

MP

abbr.國會(huì)議員（Member of Parliament）

To my slight dismay, he seems keen for a discussion about the divisions between the party's members and its MPs.

這讓我略感失望，他看起來熱衷于討論工黨黨員和該黨國會(huì)議員之間的分歧。